Thursday, August 26, 2010

Pat Condell: No mosque at Ground Zero--Responses Welcome

32 comments:

Nini Shen said...

Building the mosque near ground zero does not respect the many people that died in the desvestating attack. Having a mosque build near the ground zero is controversial. There are so many places a mosque could be build, why ground zero? His view on the situation is completely right. He is discrimating against the Islamic society, and needs to understand that not all Islamic people are bad. He needs to respectthem and their relgion and not come accross so rude and violent in his tone. His opinion is the same as mine on the "Ground Zero Mosque".

Jack Gyurina said...

Even though that the first ammendment says that all citizens have freedom of religion, I think that they are just going too far. They are allowed to build a mosque there, but, like it reads in the article, they should not excersize it because it will really get many Americans infuriated. Pat Condell said that the Muslims build mosques where they conquer countries, so would a mosque next to ground zero really be the best place for one even though that almost all muslims in the world didn't have to do with the terrorist attacks? I do not think that there should be one there.

Unknown said...

I feel like this guy is right. He gave a good argument as to why not to build the mosque near ground zero. He also gave good points, for instance where said that we are building a place for the people destroyed the twin towers and killed thousands of our own. As it stands right now, I feel that the mosque should not be built near ground zero.

simon comminos said...

I have to say that i agree with what Pat Condell is saying in this video. I find it awfully insulting that the islamic nation finds the desire to build a religious icon on a sight where hundrends of men and women of america perished in one of the most horrific acts this country has ever seen.

Ben LaFon said...

This video shows how even though the world is "flat" that dosen't mean there wont be different views on topics. The video dosen't contradict what the reading we did about the world being flat. When Friedman said the world is flat he simply meant that people are getting closer to having equall oppertunitys in life no matter where you live because of the improvemnts in communications technology. He never said anything about dissagreements from two sides of the world.

Unknown said...

The 3,00 people who died in that same spot were not killed by the Islamic people. One of the most popular reason why the American people do not want that mosque by Ground Zero is because there not American. The Islamic people were going to tribute the building to the people who died. That shows that they care somewhat.

So is part of Pat Condell's thesis to not have the mosque at Ground Zero because religion is what killed the 3,000 people?

Mr. Condell also stated American diversity has always been respected for values and they make America what it is, and Islam rejects those values, freedom, and diversity. Islams don't have to go by the American ways, it's their life, they can chose what they want to do. If it's to have freedom and diversity they wouldn't have been doing what they have been for the past many years.

As many of you know Islamic people where different clothing then us, this mosque/community center gives the Islamic people a place to be who they want to be without people giving them weird looks because they think that they're the ones who caused 9/11. This will be more than a sacred place to pray, but a place to be who they are.

Quinlan Smith said...

I think that Pat Condell is grouping the Muslim faith all into one specific group. The extremists. I believe that they want to build the Mosque not to rub it in our faces, but to show that they respect what happened and want to pay tribute. Unfortuanately since there has been such an uproar about building the Mosque, I think that they should back off and let the disapproving Americans have it their way. If they are truly trying to show their apology, or tribute, they should respect the decisions of the American people. Pat Condell supported all of his arguement with vicious comments about the faith, not once touching on the lighter aspects of the religion. I am almost positive that this is a positive act from the religion, meant to appease and to apologize. We should forgive them and allow them to build the Mosque.

Nathan Ralls Feldman said...

Pat Condell argues about how the plan to build this thirteen story mosque is an insult and a disgrace to the American citizens, and especially those who had close friends or family killed. I do agree with Mr. Condell in the sense that the placement of this towering Islamic Mosque is disrespectful. However I disagree with Mr. Condell because he argues these plans by scapegoating the Islamic religion. The Islamic religion consists of 1 billion people, in which 19 “pledged” their alliance to Bin Laden and the al Qaida. It is not right to say that no Muslim person should be allowed to set foot on ground zero, even though this mosque is planned to be built 2 blocks away. Should Muslims not be allowed to walk at all in New York City? I understand that 3,000 American citizens were murdered there on 9/11, but that still does not give the right to break the guarantees issued in the Constitution. As much as I disagree with the placement of the mosque, I do not support Mr. Condell’s argument against the religion and its practice in America.

The Week Magazine
Issue: “Islam in America”
Article: Ground Zero mosque: Obama inflames the debate

lascoa said...

If Muslims involved decide to build this mosque, where is the money going to come from? Our economy is in a recession, why would we pay 100 million dollars to put up a mosque when it might offend friends and family of the thousands of people who were killed. I don’t blame the Islamic religion for what happened on 9/11, however the people that go to the Islamic center practice and believe in the same religion as those who horrifically acted on 9/11. I disagree with Pat Condell, 9/11 wasn’t a result of belief in Islam. The Islamic religion didn’t tell those Muslims to kill those thousands of people in the world trade center. What is the significance of putting a mosque near the world trade center, if it’s not to provoke patrons? To most Americans it’s bad enough to think that there will be a mosque built near the world trade center, the thought that they want to open it on the anniversary of Sept. 11 makes the notion worse. This religious building should be able to be built anywhere but not near ground zero. There is no real reason for it to be built there.

Jake Sulley said...

I think my adrenaline was pumping as much as Pat Condell's was when I was watching this video. The video did nothing but make me angry, and just further make my hate about the situation stronger. There is absolutely no reason what so ever that the Islam nation needs to build a Mosque at Ground Zero. NONE!!! I don't even see how the idea sounds good, let alone how it looks being planned out on paper. I also do not see whatsoever how people can even think of letting this happen. Pat Condell was perfectly right, they are building it as a conquering site. They want it to be there forever to show the whole world what they did on September, 11 2001. And the fact that they want to open it on September, 11 2011?? Are they out of their minds???

This whole situation is out of hand, and it needs to be stopped. I guess some people have just forgotten about September, 11, but I know I sure haven't.

Luther said...

I truely believe that the Muslims are taking control over the Americans. Base on what i read and watched, the Americans are letting the Muslims to do what ever they want. since the attack of 9/11 we should know not to messs with any Muslim. I think the reason why they are building a mosque in New York is that they are planning something big that later could cause a problem. The thing that makes me mad is that they are opening the mosque on 9/11 which shows no respect for our country. This is why I think that our government is making a mistake if they allow a mosque to be built on ground zero.

smithk2 said...

I agree that the Mosques should be placed somewhere else not at ground zero. I disagree with the fact the they should be placed in the desert of Arizona because of there beliefs. Although I agree that the mosque should still be built, spending one hundred million dollars on the mosque is not worth the money. Islamic people who live in America are being stereotyped because they practice the same religion as the people who destroyed the towers on nine eleven. They should have a mosque near them to practice what they believe, but it should not be right next to Ground Zero.

morganosborn said...

Pat Condell is extremely opinionated towards the mosque not being built anywhere near Ground Zero. He believes that the "memory of the victims of 9/11 is insulted" and that building the mosque would be a "threat to our freedom". He also claims how Islam has done this in the past with building mosques near historic sites. My opinion is the same as Pat Condell's; I believe that it is not appropriate to build a mosque near Ground Zero after such a terrible event took place there only nine years ago. Like Paul Condell says, maybe the opinion of the public can eventually put a stop to this.

Carol Alban said...

Carol's Comments-
So, I think that this video makes sense. Building a mosque on ground zero is a very bad idea. Okay, this guy wasn't even American and he was basically telling us (America) that we need to stop this, as soon as we can. Other countries are going to judge us if we let this happen. America is stereo typed as a strong independent country. If we let this happen, then we will be looked at different. Now I am the type of person that is completely open to new culture things and what not. My dad is from New Jersey, my mom is from Nicaragua, and I live in Texas. I have my fair share of culture thrown at my face; but this is just not acceptable. I agree with 'Pat Condell' and his opinions on this subject.

Austin.Pegg said...

I agree and disagree with Pat Condell for different reasons.I disagree with him in the sense that Islam is a wrong religion. It is not his place to say what is right and what is wrong. He does not know if their is an afterlife or not, and he is not an expert on every religions unknown beliefs. But where I think he is correct is when he says it is wrong to build it so close to ground zero. Ground zero should be reserved for the memory of the deceased who lost their lives through tragedy. I also agree with him when he say that the city of New York should vote, or all of America should vote. I say this because it is not just a patch of land. It is Ground Zero, which has recently become an American landmark; this should give all of America a right to vote.

GODYUAN said...

I objects to build the mosque! Obviously, this project has a underlying motive that Islamic people want to celebrate their success in "911" by constructing a Islamic building on the site of ground zero!!!!!!

Xu said...

This guy really sounds convincing but at one point he is totally wrong. He thinks the whole Islam world is evil. Because if the Islam world is not evil, then how could the idea of ground zero mosque wrong? A mosque is a sign of Islamic religion, so what he trying to do is limit the freedom of religion.
This guy is an extremist and a racist, I think.

CamBenn said...

I believe that Mr. Condell is going a little “overboard” with the plan for the Ground Zero mosque to be constructed only two blocks from Ground Zero because in his video he states multiple times that it was Islam that caused 9/11. Or that it could never had happen if it wasn’t for Islam’s teachings of their religion and the promised afterlife they wouldn’t have done it but in fact the 19 fanatics who had pledged their allegiance to al Qaida and Osama bin Laden, they acted on his commands not the Islamic religion. In the article “Ground Zero mosque: Obama inflames the debate” there is a quote that states “If these cheesy emporiums fail to show disrespect to the place where 3,00 people died, it’s hard to fathom how a center devoted to prayer and tolerance will.” I agree with this quote quite strongly because all the “cheesy emporiums” such as the Ground Zero bars, pizza shops, peep shows, and nail salons can be taken just as disrespectfully as this mosque can be. The First Amendment states that they have the right to worship as they please. Although I don’t disagree with everything Mr. Condell says I do believe that in all fairness the mosque should in fact get the approval to be constructed.

David Miz said...

I think he explains the major points of this problem and he is absolutley right, but you cant judge al muslims and say they are terrorists because most of them arent. so he is right in someways but wrong in the sense that all muslims are terrorists.

Anonymous said...

I think that Pat Condell had some good things to say, especially while talking about the "money" issue that would occur while building the mosque. I agree with him that building the mosque is disrespectful although I think he made some comments that were on the edge of racism, while talking about "The Muslim Nazis”. I think that Condell made some assumptions about Muslim belief that came off as attacking and a little disrespectful towards Muslims. I think that his argument would be more product full if he kept to the facts, instead of mostly opinions. I agree with him, that the mosque should not be built on Ground Zero, although I do not agree that the reason it should not be built is because it is what Muslims do many times.

Quinlan Smith said...

A quote by William Saletan, Slate.com and the week: "but it wasn't Islam that attacked America on 9/11. We were attacked that day by 19 fanatics who'd pledged allegiance to al Qaida and Osama bin Laden. To equate them with Islam "is to give them the power to define the religion of 1 billion people." That's both wrong and strategically foolish, for it will only alienate Islamic allies and moderates." That quotation expresses my opinion clearly, it wasn't their religion that attacked us, it was 19 extremist who weren't pledged to their God, but to a human. 9/11 wasn't Islams fault, and therefore they should be allowed to build a Mosque, and if it is for tribute or for apology for what happened...then all the better.

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Kwangbok Roh said...

I oppose building an islamic building, mosque, right next to ground zero. That is completly insulting to the people who had been killed during 9/11. If it was not for Islam's teaching, doctrine of Jihad, and false promise of impulsive afterlife there wouldn't have been 9/11. Islam induces violence which is not possible to bring spiritual enlightenment. putting such religious building there would not bring a positive result including main objective of building mosque, diviersity.

Anonymous said...

Blaming the 9/11 bombing on the entire Islamic religion is arrogant and rude. While I believe that the placement of the mosque could be changed to avoid conflict, I don't think proposing to build it near ground zero is disrespecting the lives lost on that terrible day. In my opinion, it is not a hard compromise to build the mosque in a different location, but if it is built there, people should not be as offended as they seem to be. Religions have the right to practice anywhere they choose, no matter what religion a group of terrorists were on September 11th.

Anonymous said...

Blaming the 9/11 bombing on the entire Islamic religion is arrogant and rude. While I believe that the placement of the mosque could be changed to avoid conflict, I don't think proposing to build it near ground zero is disrespecting the lives lost on that terrible day. In my opinion, it is not a hard compromise to build the mosque in a different location, but if it is built there, people should not be as offended as they seem to be. Religions have the right to practice anywhere they choose, no matter what religion a group of terrorists were on September 11th.

phil said...

I think that Mr. Condell offer a few good points and also a few very poor points. I do agree with him that the Isalms are being very inconsiderate towards America in building a mosque on a national landmark which shows one of the worst tradegies in American history. If the Isalms want to build a mosque in rememberance for this tradgedy, they should build it further away and not open it on a day of mourning. I have to disagree with Mr. Conell’s hatred of the Islamic faith. He is not a believer of that faith, so he has no room to be saying that the faith should not even be considered a religion. A religion is considered as belief in God or in a god, and if they believe that ther God is telling them to kill, then they are just trying to be good followers of their faith. I am not saying it is right at all, but we have no business judging them.

DeanF said...

I agree with Pat Condell’s speech on “No Mosque at Ground Zero”. The Islam culture is slowly building its way into America and despises the essentials such as freedom and diversity that America has offered hundreds of years. The building of this Mosque is more than wanting to expand the Islam faith in America. The building of this Mosque is a direct hit at the American people. Pat Condell is right when he says, “They know how insulating it is to build a mosque there, why do you think they got as close to ground zero as they could”. Along with the mosque being built as close as possible to ground zero it will also open September eleventh and Americans will be paying for it. This is once again a direct hit to the people of America. Although the Islam’s say they are building a community center aimed at improving understanding between Muslims and non-Muslims, it is a scared piece of ground that not only the al Qaida look too but also the entire Islamic faith. Pat Condell says, “Building mosques on sacred ground is what the Islam culture has always done”. They built their first Mosque in Spain named Cordoba, this is the Mosque that the Islamic faith as a whole looks up too. Now the Islamic faith is once again trying to do the same thing in America on a piece of sacred ground that they can all look up too. Even though these people may not be in al Qaida, it sure seems like they are looking up to them, as they build this mosque on this hallow piece of ground. Pat Condell says, “Without the shield of religion to hide behind, Islam would be banned in the civilized world as a political ideology of hate”. The Islam’s know what they are doing they always have, and that’s why they intend to build a mosque on ground zero.

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cooperm said...

I definitely agree with Mr. Condell. Why would someone build a mosque to serve as a purpose only for the same kind of people that killed over 3,000 Americans, and in that very spot? Yes, of course the Muslimsa have the right to have their own sacred place, but like Condell said, "America is a big country and there is plenty of room to build the mosque somewhere else." It just seems so wrong to build it on ground zero. And also, they plan to open it next year on the 10TH ANNIVERSARY of 9/11, that just seems completely inappropriate to me. There have also been other times when the Muslims wanted to build a mosque on historical ground, do they just want something to hang over America's head? Condell said that public opinion can put a stop to this, and that's exactly what should be happening.

hogann said...

Pat Condell's point of view about building a mosque on ground zero is very one sided. He feels that the American public should not allow anyone to build a mosque because he thinks that the whole religion of Islam should be blamed for 9/11. When in actuality, the people who crashed the plains into the twin towers happened to be Islamic extremist. You can not blame an entire religion for a few people's actions. If it were a group of Americans who had done the same thing, the American public would not say, "We can't build a church there." America was built on the freedom to believe in whatever religion you want to believe in, and by not allowing the mosque to be built at ground zero, America is taking that away.

alicehuang said...

In the video,the man against build mosque on Main Street and at Ground Zero strongly.
I think it is fine because it can let more people to understand islamic culture and
maybe people can understand not all islam like those people who attack New York.
But in the other side, this plan is not fair and respectful for the family that
there family member died in 9/11 because the people attack them are islam
but if people think all the islam are like that, they discriminate islam.
That is not appropriate because betwwen people we should respect each other.

Yuxiao Zhu said...

There are two main reasons that people want “No mosque at ground zero”. One is because it is a big amount to build a mosque. The other is that people think use mosque to commemorate the dead is a satire. I think it is worth using money to commemorate the dead. However, choosing which way to use this money is necessary to discuss. If the mosque will be built near to the “Ground Zero”, this building will not only let people to commemorate the dead, also will remind them “911” the terrible event caused by several Muslims. Obviously, the purpose of build a mosque is to enhance Islam's public image. Since that, I think any other location is better than this sensitive place.